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Quote from: zanurreload on February 07, 2019, 10:36:50 PM
In looking at the market trend, there are two categories of traders playing in it. Some choose to become trend followers and some play as trend counters. Although there is no definite answer to determine which one is better, here we will examine more deeply the two traders' flows.
Which do you think is better, follow the trend or counter trend?
if I choose better follow the trend
according to the book I read, be friends with the trend
because if we follow the trading trend we will become more relaxed
#16 - February 11, 2019, 06:34:01 AM

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Quote from: zanurreload on February 07, 2019, 10:36:50 PM
In looking at the market trend, there are two categories of traders playing in it. Some choose to become trend followers and some play as trend counters. Although there is no definite answer to determine which one is better, here we will examine more deeply the two traders' flows.
Which do you think is better, follow the trend or counter trend?
in my opinion as long as we know how and understand what we are doing I feel against trends and following trends as well, because our initial goal in trading is to look for profit so long as it can generate profit for us, then there is no harm in trying.

it's just that if you go against a trend, then make sure the way we do is right, because by fighting the trend, the risk that we take is far greater than following the trend.
#17 - February 11, 2019, 07:11:14 AM

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Quote from: zanurreload on February 07, 2019, 10:36:50 PM
In looking at the market trend, there are two categories of traders playing in it. Some choose to become trend followers and some play as trend counters. Although there is no definite answer to determine which one is better, here we will examine more deeply the two traders' flows.
Which do you think is better, follow the trend or counter trend?
Both of them have the opportunity to be able to benefit, either by following trends or counter trends. But if I was told to choose the best one, then I think it's better to choose an entry based on a follow trend. Because the risk of loss that will be faced is less if you use the follow trend compared to the counter trend. But all of that goes back to each trader, because each trader has different characters.
#18 - February 16, 2019, 05:49:21 AM

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Quote from: blinkid on February 16, 2019, 05:49:21 AM
Both of them have the opportunity to be able to benefit, either by following trends or counter trends. But if I was told to choose the best one, then I think it's better to choose an entry based on a follow trend. Because the risk of loss that will be faced is less if you use the follow trend compared to the counter trend. But all of that goes back to each trader, because each trader has different characters.
Counter trend is actually not all pure against the trend but can also fight the trend in the small time frame but in the direction of the trend in the big time frame, it is usually the most sought after by a trader.
#19 - February 16, 2019, 06:24:33 AM

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Quote from: ariezz on February 16, 2019, 06:24:33 AM
Counter trend is actually not all pure against the trend but can also fight the trend in the small time frame but in the direction of the trend in the big time frame, it is usually the most sought after by a trader.
Counter the trend as you say it can also be used by traders. Also by utilizing the price correction moment in a smaller time frame but still in accordance with the direction of the trend in a large time frame. Because, indeed every time frame also has its own trend direction. And also, the price trend movement also does not always rise dramatically or drop dramatically, there must be waves up and down with the price correction.
#20 - February 16, 2019, 09:12:03 AM

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Quote from: blinkid on February 16, 2019, 09:12:03 AM
Counter the trend as you say it can also be used by traders. Also by utilizing the price correction moment in a smaller time frame but still in accordance with the direction of the trend in a large time frame. Because, indeed every time frame also has its own trend direction. And also, the price trend movement also does not always rise dramatically or drop dramatically, there must be waves up and down with the price correction.
That's right, the price correction is always the price because it is impossible for prices to continue to go up or down without correction. Traders who take advantage of a trend correction can also be called counter trend or scalper.
#21 - February 16, 2019, 10:59:39 AM

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Quote from: zanurreload on February 07, 2019, 10:36:50 PM
In looking at the market trend, there are two categories of traders playing in it. Some choose to become trend followers and some play as trend counters. Although there is no definite answer to determine which one is better, here we will examine more deeply the two traders' flows.
Which do you think is better, follow the trend or counter trend?
dont fight the trend, i really mean it, last year i loss 150$ for trend counter, i got profit but i hold it and it become loss, i wait till it will go uptrend but i am wrong, thats it, my suggestion is dont fight the trend, if market go down just follow it, dont make idea to open position into buy
#22 - February 17, 2019, 03:38:31 AM

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Quote from: rinshei on February 17, 2019, 03:38:31 AM
dont fight the trend, i really mean it, last year i loss 150$ for trend counter, i got profit but i hold it and it become loss, i wait till it will go uptrend but i am wrong, thats it, my suggestion is dont fight the trend, if market go down just follow it, dont make idea to open position into buy
counter trends and follow trends are as good as they can get profit. So it all depends on how you use it. Sometimes on the one hand we want to join the market according to the current trend, but sometimes there are times when we have to fight the trend. both have different characters and can be used in different market conditions. most traders who are hobby trend seekers are opportunities and reverse reversal / follow-up techniques follow.
#23 - February 17, 2019, 03:47:06 AM

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Quote from: Ariyudin on February 17, 2019, 03:47:06 AM
counter trends and follow trends are as good as they can get profit. So it all depends on how you use it. Sometimes on the one hand we want to join the market according to the current trend, but sometimes there are times when we have to fight the trend. both have different characters and can be used in different market conditions. most traders who are hobby trend seekers are opportunities and reverse reversal / follow-up techniques follow.
yeah i agree, in my opinion if you want to fight the trend just take small pips or point, if you take higher pip or more its very risky i think, because trend will go again as it is :D
#24 - February 17, 2019, 04:00:09 AM

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fllow trend is the good one, why im saying this? because many times i tried to counter the trend, it just end with margin call, you may try countering the trend but you need to wait for retest before entering the market
#25 - February 17, 2019, 07:02:24 AM

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Quote from: rafid on February 17, 2019, 07:02:24 AM
fllow trend is the good one, why im saying this? because many times i tried to counter the trend, it just end with margin call, you may try countering the trend but you need to wait for retest before entering the market
yes, if you want to fight the trend just use strategy wait and see, just wait in their resisten or support and when it bouce back, maybe its time to open position
#26 - February 17, 2019, 12:03:03 PM

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Quote from: rinshei on February 17, 2019, 12:03:03 PM
yes, if you want to fight the trend just use strategy wait and see, just wait in their resisten or support and when it bouce back, maybe its time to open position
That's right, sir, if you want to fight a trend you have to have a special strategy, if you don't want to get caught up in losses

and to be safer you have to be able to follow the price of moving so you can get a profit, unless you can already distinguish and know the price reversal characteristics such as heath and shoulder, double top, double bottom, and many other signs that appear when the price is saturated
#27 - February 17, 2019, 12:08:49 PM

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Quote from: trader ndeso on February 17, 2019, 12:08:49 PM
That's right, sir, if you want to fight a trend you have to have a special strategy, if you don't want to get caught up in losses

and to be safer you have to be able to follow the price of moving so you can get a profit, unless you can already distinguish and know the price reversal characteristics such as heath and shoulder, double top, double bottom, and many other signs that appear when the price is saturated
need to remember also against the trend of the risks faced greater than the follow trend and usually counter trend traders are scalping type traders who only take a few pips of profit is not wrong but must be more careful when fighting trends.
#28 - February 18, 2019, 02:10:49 AM

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Quote from: Ariyudin on February 18, 2019, 02:10:49 AM
need to remember also against the trend of the risks faced greater than the follow trend and usually counter trend traders are scalping type traders who only take a few pips of profit is not wrong but must be more careful when fighting trends.
yes sir Ari, a scalping is only taking a few pips when fighting a trend, and only utilizing a price condition that is being corrected, but it does have a greater risk than following the flow of a trend movement

but fighting trends doesn't matter if you are used to it and have the right timing
#29 - February 18, 2019, 11:15:48 PM

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in my opinion the trend is better. because there is a saying that trend is your friend. so if we want to profit in trading then we must follow the trend.
#30 - February 19, 2019, 02:15:19 AM
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