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Tahajud

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Quote from: aizafx on February 07, 2019, 06:15:18 AM
How to making profit in trading need good technical analysis and also accompanied with proper money management, but also don't forget to always keep stay tune an update news that will released on the day, because sometimes technical analysis can't work well after news has been released, a trader need to become smart to adjusted market condition
In my opinion, the main thing is good management. because any bad technique will definitely profit if you use good management, but on the other hand, as good as any technique if it is not managed properly, the result will be a loss. because it is very important for the role of management, and indeed a good business is a business that is managed well



#31 - February 07, 2019, 08:38:03 AM

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Quote from: Tahajud on February 07, 2019, 08:38:03 AM
In my opinion, the main thing is good management. because any bad technique will definitely profit if you use good management, but on the other hand, as good as any technique if it is not managed properly, the result will be a loss. because it is very important for the role of management, and indeed a good business is a business that is managed well


yes right, technically good too without keeping good money money will be destroyed and bankrupt all the capital that we have, it is appropriate for us in trading to prepare good and mature preparation to deal with the forex market, because our entries are not always profitable, surely we will met stop loss when misstated.


#32 - February 07, 2019, 08:59:10 AM

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Quote from: nawwa thalorenz on February 07, 2019, 08:59:10 AM
yes right, technically good too without keeping good money money will be destroyed and bankrupt all the capital that we have, it is appropriate for us in trading to prepare good and mature preparation to deal with the forex market, because our entries are not always profitable, surely we will met stop loss when misstated.
Therefore the trading system must complete all its components, to achieve a consistent profit condition. and these components are, rule trading, money management, and trading plans. and all that we have to do with patience and discipline. that way, the success of trading we will get soon



#33 - February 08, 2019, 01:56:50 PM

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i think technical analysis still work if you understand how to use then perfectly, dont trade if a news willl come because it will break all your set up and make you fear or greedy
#34 - February 09, 2019, 02:08:25 AM

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Quote from: rushart on February 04, 2019, 10:26:00 AM
Why it's seems all indicators and news are fake? I dont know weather you are realize or not, but everytime we follow any indicator and news, its seems like they are chiting us. Let me tell you my side story....indicators and chat will be appear after markets doing action, and market will be action a few minutes after/before news was released. And news was released because every country must keep they exchange rate to another in balance. So there is nothing to do between indicators and news with price's movement. they just follow  the price's movement. Why should we follow them?;D
I do not agree if technical analysis and fundamentals are fake. what we need to know is the basis for creating this analysis so that we understand the possibility of null or invalid.
#35 - February 09, 2019, 02:23:22 AM

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Quote from: rushart on February 04, 2019, 10:26:00 AM
Why it's seems all indicators and news are fake? I dont know weather you are realize or not, but everytime we follow any indicator and news, its seems like they are chiting us. Let me tell you my side story....indicators and chat will be appear after markets doing action, and market will be action a few minutes after/before news was released. And news was released because every country must keep they exchange rate to another in balance. So there is nothing to do between indicators and news with price's movement. they just follow  the price's movement. Why should we follow them?;D
what you explain makes sense too and can be understood by me, maybe this is a new technique of your discovery of market analysis that doesn't use technical or fundamental and this is very good and rarely a trader has knowledge so far
#36 - February 09, 2019, 02:40:47 AM

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Quote from: aizafx on February 04, 2019, 02:29:15 PM
Indicator is only helped tool, there is no perfect indicator of this arena, if we losing money because follow indicator, its not mean indicator is fake, because usually indicator take previous data and with certain formula used to predict movement ahead, but we know if market is dynamic, there are so many factors the cause of movement, we should learn all the thing
what I learned was also an indicator as a tool, and the indicator also took the value of the average price movement, afterwards,
#37 - February 09, 2019, 02:42:52 AM

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Quote from: Tahajud on February 08, 2019, 01:56:50 PM
Therefore the trading system must complete all its components, to achieve a consistent profit condition. and these components are, rule trading, money management, and trading plans. and all that we have to do with patience and discipline. that way, the success of trading we will get soon


of course bro, and something we try to do with keiklasan and really serious. I think discipline has included the key to success. all of us have everything


#38 - February 09, 2019, 04:07:16 AM

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Quote from: Nendi71 on February 09, 2019, 02:42:52 AM
what I learned was also an indicator as a tool, and the indicator also took the value of the average price movement, afterwards,
Of course indicator as a tool, however, it's not always will become the perfect tool to analyze the trend ahead, let say you using two moving average with rules small MA crossing larger MA, not always after signal confirmed then will become a true signal, sometimes occurred false signal, so here risk management is needed
#39 - February 09, 2019, 05:22:05 AM

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Quote from: aizafx on February 09, 2019, 05:22:05 AM
Of course indicator as a tool, however, it's not always will become the perfect tool to analyze the trend ahead, let say you using two moving average with rules small MA crossing larger MA, not always after signal confirmed then will become a true signal, sometimes occurred false signal, so here risk management is needed
Agree, risk management plays a very important role for our trading in the long run, because there is no indicator that can read the price of 100% correct, then risk management is very important.
#40 - February 09, 2019, 05:45:40 AM

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Quote from: Kirinkato on February 09, 2019, 02:23:22 AM
I do not agree if technical analysis and fundamentals are fake. what we need to know is the basis for creating this analysis so that we understand the possibility of null or invalid.
As you wish my friend, all I know....they're fake.hehehe...
#41 - February 09, 2019, 05:51:27 AM

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Quote from: MonsterFX on February 09, 2019, 05:45:40 AM
Agree, risk management plays a very important role for our trading in the long run, because there is no indicator that can read the price of 100% correct, then risk management is very important.
Forex trading is business, so don't treat forex like as gambling, risk management in trading is one way to maintain account from bigger loss, indeed hit stop loss is make our heart painful, but we also can't let account without risk management, in addition trading with high risk taker, it will like as gambling way, and will never get success except in luck
#42 - February 09, 2019, 05:52:32 AM

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all businesses without analysis opportunities for success will be small need a mature plan to succeed in the forex business
#43 - February 09, 2019, 06:41:04 AM

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Quote from: Ariyudin on February 09, 2019, 06:41:04 AM
all businesses without analysis opportunities for success will be small need a mature plan to succeed in the forex business
so true friend, i always off trading when there is a fundamental news its scary me because i got margin call because of this news ahaha
#44 - February 09, 2019, 06:48:00 AM

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Quote from: rinshei on February 09, 2019, 06:48:00 AM
so true friend, i always off trading when there is a fundamental news its scary me because i got margin call because of this news ahaha
Because news often make technical analysis can't work properly, hence some trader that based on technical analysis they prefer to stay away from news time, with reason rather than losing money better avoid trading and wait for market condition will become normal again, trading based on the news is easy but also difficult 
#45 - February 09, 2019, 08:00:10 AM
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